thanks,
mardell

I just tried and I created a batch file to run both setups.exe … unfortunately, I run into the exact same problem as you: i.e. the setup.bat is executed from C:\Windows\System32 … so it has no idea where the setup.exe file is in the temp folders. I might open a PMR on this next week if things quiet down on my side (it’s insane right now).

Marc

Sorry for the delay in my reply, I was traveling last week on business so I couldn’t reply.

I see that you’ve done your homework … what you are trying is very thorough!

I have an idea that I will need to try. Here it is:

(a) Put all your tweaked files into a folder, for example “LotusNotesR851″. That directory has the setup.exe and all the other files that are in the installation package.
(b) Create another directory under that called “FP2″ so that you have “LotusNotesR851\FP2″. In there you put all the files for the Fix Pack2.
(c) Take your batch file and put it in “LotusNotesR851″.
(d) Tweak your batch file so that the 1st thing it does is to run the setup.exe for the R8.5.1 installation. In my case, setup.exe line would be setup.exe /s /v”ALLUSERS=1 TRANSFORMS=LotusNotes851.mst /qb+!” (see page 106 of my SnTT on Smart Upgrade … on that topic, I advise against using the /d or -d … I had too many problems with that … see page 106 of my presentation).
(e) Then, the 2nd line line the batch file should be for the Fix Pack 2 … and the cmd line could be .\FP2\setup.exe /S /v”/qb+”
(f) Then run the SURunAsWizard and package all those files together and tell the SURunAsWizard to run your cmd file instead of the setup.exe

Like I said, I really need to test this myself before I can vouch for it … but maybe you’ll be quicker than me to test this out.

Marc

But (always a but), there is a problem.
I want to use SURunAsWizard to create a global package, with the full client, the FP, and the batch.
For the full client, i modify the setup.ini to launch the mst file > Ok
For the FP, i don’t do anything.
And my batch is very simple :

_____
ln851frpkg\setup.exe
lotus_notes851FP2_win.exe /d /s -s -a /v” /qb-!”
_____
I test this succession manually, with an user with administrator rights, and it’s ok.

Now, go to SURunAsWizard, to create the big pack.
- Set the administrator user to used
- Add all files in my directory (ln851frpkg folder\*.*, lotus_notes851FP2_win.exe and LN851FP2_FR.cmd
- Set LN851FP2_FR.cmd to be launched
- No parameters
- Compilation in progress.

Next step : SUDb
I put the SuRunas.exe file in the Smart Upgrade Database, and configure to go from 8.5 to 8.5.1 FP2.
On my test client, the Smart Upgrade Process occured.
1 – The SuRunas.exe file is downloaded in %USERPROFILE%\application data\Smkits\…
2 – It ask me if i want to install it (i click on yes proudly)
3 – Lotus Notes closes, the SU process continue. At this time, SuRunas.exe is extracted to a temporary folder (%USERPROFILE%\local settings\temp\SuRunasXXXX\… where XXXX is four digits)
When all the file are here… nothing happen, and Lotus Notes is launched.
Ouch, didn’t worked.
On the MyDocuments\LotusInstall.log, i see that all file are extracted, and then that it launch the batch file :

___________________________
Detached resource file to C:\DOCUME~1\yyy\LOCALS~1\Temp\SURunas212\FICHIERS\InstLotus\LN851FP2_FR.cmd
Setting current directory to C:\DOCUME~1\yyy\LOCALS~1\Temp\SURunas212\
COMMAND: C:\DOCUME~1\yyy\LOCALS~1\Temp\SURunas212\FICHIERS\InstLotus\LN851FP2_FR.cmd -a /s
USERNAME: yyy
DOMAIN: xxx
*****Stopping SURunAs logging*****
___________________________

So, nothing here to see what is the problem.
I put a pause in my batch file, and finaly, i know why.
The path as changed, and i’m back at “c:\windows\system32″
So when the first package try to be launched, we have an error, because it can’t be found. Logical.

I assumed that the batch file is launched using “Executed by…”, and so, it changed the path.

Don’t know what to do. The problem is that the files are firstly extracted to a temporary folder, without a fixed name (SURunasxxx). So i don’t know the place where i could find my packages.
I don’t find in documentation a way to give the SURunAsWizarda path for the temporary files.

Any ideas ?

And now, it’s time to go back home, with a stop in tavern. It’s friday.

Clement

First and foremost: thank you for your comments, they are very appreciated.

Secondly, I’m still learning things about Smart Upgrade almost every day … so I’m also a “dummy”.

Finally, if I understood your question correctly, you cannot go to from “Release 8.5″ to the “Release 8.5.1 FP2″ in 1 shot. Well, in theory that is. Mr. John Paganetti of Lotus (he commented on this particular topic) suggested that in order to do that you:

(a) Create the whole “tweaked” package for the R8.5.1 installation (with SURunAsWizard that gives you a file nearly 500 megs).
(b) Create the package for the 8.5.1 Fix Pack 2 (with SURunAsWizard, that gives you a file about 90 megs).
(c) Create a batch file that calls the 1st package and then the 2nd package.
(d) Upload that batch file and the 2 kits from “a” and “b” into the Smart Upgrade Kit document and use that to upgrade your clients.

I have not had the chance to try that approach yet in my company. Right now, I am “forcing” people to go to R8.5.1 first via policy and then, again via policy, to get the Fix Pack 1 for R8.5.1. Yes, they are not happy about the “two parts” upgrade … but at least it’s “hands-off” and it does not require any intervention on our part (which was the goal).

Let me know if this answered your question or not … and good luck!

Marc

I thought i’ll never be able to make it works, but here you come !
I follow your instruction, and create 2 package, one for LN851 and one for LN851FP2.
I configure policy, SU and SU Trackert, and test were good in certain cases, but not in every case.
I want that all clients move to an actual version (6.5.x ou 8.5) to 8.5.2 FP2, and that didn’t work.

For example, i have an user with an LN85 client.
I have configured 2 kits : One from release 85 to release 851, and one from release 851 to release 851 FP2
If I set the desktop policy to Release 851, the SU process occured, and user LN’s client is updated to Release 8.5.1
After that, i set the desktop policy to Release 851 FP2. So the user LN’s client is updated to Relase 8.5.1 FP2
So it works.

But i want to upgrade in one time. From 8.5 to 8.5.1 FP2.
And that don’t work.

If someone use LN 8.5 and his policy is set to Release 8.5.1 FP2, we will have the message “no matching kit”.
So, do we have to upgrade all clients to a version version without the FP, and after, install the FP ?

Your help will be very appreciated !

Clement

Sorry to say this, but I have never tried to package the Basic version but I’m 90% sure that the steps would be exactly the same. Well, almost the same, except for the part about tweaking the jvm.properties files and modifying the file to allow clients to automatically login to Sametime. If you need that, in the Basic version, the Sametime settings are in the notes.ini so you would simply add the settings there via the InstallShield wizard during the package creation (at the step where you tweak the notes.ini).

However, and to the best of my knowledge, you can’t put the FP2 in the package at the same time. Sorry. It really needs to be a 2 step process. You’ll end up doing 2 Smart Upgrades in a row on your clients basically.

But, you can open a PMR with Lotus Support to see what they have to say about it.

Do keep in mind that you might get some answers from people out there who will say “Yes, it’s possible to install it on a machine, then put FP2 on top of it and *then* take a snapshot of what got installed and write something and/or put it into a very well made installation wizard to deploy it …” but the goal of my post and the goal in my company is to use Smart Upgrade because it’s what’s supported by Lotus Support and it’s free, i.e. included out of the box so I can’t go into that and I have no idea about which tool could do such a thing.

Thanks for your comments!

Marc